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MasterOfTheHat
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Maybe it was meant another way, but it sounded like mocking God.
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I think God's big enough to handle a little mocking now and then, don't you? Don't you think God has a sense of humor? I would imagine he, if he exists, would have an excellent sense of humor.
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Is He big enough to handle it? Absolutely. Should it be done? Absolutely not. At least, that's what I feel as a Christian. I don't understand how anyone could look at this world and not see that God exists...
And does he have a sense of humor? Absolutely! Look at things like the duck-billed platypus and Magus!
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Jeremy Reimer
King of Canada
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Joined: 01 Aug 2002
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Location: 789-M
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I'm pretty sure, Dv, that this was not an attack on Canada or her people as a whole. I think that the Jon Stewart quote was just used to prove a point: don't praise Jon Stewart for bashing America because he bashes Canada, too. In fact, I would say that all of those comments were directly for JR and his comments.
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But they weren't my comments. They were Jon Stewart's comments.
I repeat: do you think Jon Stewart hates America?
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Kingpin expressed what a few of us were feeling: 1) we took offense at the mocking of our God,
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Do you think Jon Stewart was mocking your God? How about all the members of his audience? Were they mocking him as well?
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2) JR's post showed absolutely no concern for those affected by the hurricane. Kingpin, Magus, and my family live in an area that has had Katrina's eye about an hour east and now Rita's eye about an hour or two west of them. There's a lot of emotion there! So no, he wasn't saying or in any way insinuating that none of our Canadian smammers cared anything for us. He was just saying that JR's comment was inappropriate, especially considering JR showed no concern for anyone's well-being.
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Of course I'm concerned about people's well-being. But Magus had already said he had evacuated! It didn't sound like it was a big deal, and in fact he was back in a couple of days with no repercussions whatsoever.
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Yes, Magus said that it wasn't all that bad, but he can't speak for all of us simply because he doesn't know.
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Was it bad for anyone else? Was anyone on OSY hurt or lost property, or anything?
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Is He big enough to handle it? Absolutely. Should it be done? Absolutely not. At least, that's what I feel as a Christian.
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That's fine if you feel that way and fine if you want to express your opinion on the matter, but I still maintain that God can handle a little gentle ribbing. Which is what that was, gentle ribbing.
The other thing I find interesting is that these "don't mock our God" comments are coming from the same people who will often speak up against "political correctness" as being a bad thing. Well, isn't being afraid to mock God the ultimate in political correctness? It seems a contradiction in my eyes.
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I don't understand how anyone could look at this world and not see that God exists...
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And I don't understand how anyone could have any kind of confidence in the existence or non-existence of God, given the complete lack of evidence either way. That's why they call it belief, because it isn't meant to be obvious and/or provable, it's something you feel, not something you conclude logically based on observation. That's the whole point of religion, to believe in things you can't see! If it's so darn obvious, what's the point of belief?
I respect people for having beliefs, but I'm not about to say that one belief is right and the others are all wrong, it's just too impossible to prove. And I wouldn't expect people who are believers to prove their beliefs anyway. You believe, and that's good enough. But don't tell me I have to believe, because I'll decide that for myself, thank you very much.
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Dvixen
Sugar standards in exported confectionaries Minister
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| I am glad your hatred for America far outweighs your caring for friends. This shows your true colors. |
Considering that particular Jon quote in your first response to JR - that's bloody well uncalled for.
Magus said things weren't all that bad - and because we trust his judgement, we took him at his word, knowing he'd tell us otherwise. There are enough of his crew in the area, we know we'd hear if it were otherwise.
Just because our concern and questions are not here, in this specific place where you can read it with your own eyes, doesn't mean those of us who aren't below the magic line of worthyness aren't worried.
Instead, assume away, it's all the rage.
Talk about showing your own true colours.
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I'm pretty sure, Dv, that this was not an attack on Canada or her people as a whole.
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I took the quote from Jon Stewart for what it is - more verbal spewage. It entertains me with what his writers come up with.
It's Kingpins' response after that that I am responding to - and considering JR hasn't had that great of a past few days himself, I have NO problem stepping in and bitch slapping someone for being an ass. Actually, I'd have stepped in on this occasion regardless of JR's bad days. He's my friend, just like most of the #osy denizens. (Not Faye, she's a whore.)
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| Kingpin expressed what a few of us were feeling: 1) we took offense at the mocking of our God, 2) JR's post showed absolutely no concern for those affected by the hurricane. Kingpin, Magus, and my family live in an area that has had Katrina's eye about an hour east and now Rita's eye about an hour or two west of them. There's a lot of emotion there! So no, he wasn't saying or in any way insinuating that none of our Canadian smammers cared anything for us. He was just saying that JR's comment was inappropriate, especially considering JR showed no concern for anyone's well-being. |
Then perhaps he should have SAID that, instead of quoting something that can be taken just as offensively, and then not added to the cinders by being directly insulting?
Instead, he quoted, then snarked, and took the hypocritical path of non-enlightenment.
ANYHOW.
Since you are posting, I take it you weathered Rita's temper tantrum decently enough?
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FondueDaredevil
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Harbinger
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Hehe, cool pic.
Anyone have any other cgi-irc sites handy? The one I've been using (ictoadd.com) hasn't been working the past few days because of some script error.
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Mord
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FondueDaredevil
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"Our products just aren't engineered for security."
- Brian Valentine, Senior VP in charge of MS Windows Development
"I call on those who question the motives of the president and his national security advisers to join with the rest of America in presenting a united front to our enemies abroad." Sen. Dick Durbin, 1998
"There's no set architecture in Linux. All roads lead to madness" - William Hilf, Microsoft homonculous
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Jeremy Reimer
King of Canada
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"Those afraid of the universe as it really is, those who pretend to nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos centered on human beings will prefer the fleeting comforts of superstition. They avoid rather than confront the world. But those with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the Cosmos, even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and prejudices, will penetrate its deepest mysteries."
-- Carl Sagan
"Its not a rule. Its just something I noticed. Several of us have more than one sig." - Mord
"No, you are a troll, and I should have never let you back to Ars in after the first 16,000 bannings." - Caesar, to He Who Shall Not Be Named
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Magus
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Location: On the Stairway to Heaven.
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Well, I've been talking about moving to TX for a while now, and it's finally happening. On Wednesday, the truck gets loaded, and Thursday will be spent driving. This obviously means no intarweb for me for a few days.
I'll be shutting down tomorrow afternoon, likely around 3PM CST to turn in the cable modem. Comcast has already been called, and I've scheduled an installation at the new lair for Monday the 13th. As soon as reasonably possible, I'll be back online.
In my absence, Kingpin has graciously offered to temporarily host IRC at kingpinmc.dyndns.org:6667. Many thanks to him for keeping #OSY up. 
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Magus
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I'm pleased to announce that, while there's a lot of unpacking and setting up left to do, all is once more as it should be in IRC land. Yes, I have indeed returned, with Opbot and Faye in tow. Please come over at your earliest convenience.
Many thanks go to Kingpin for generously providing #OSY a home in my absence.
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<Paolo|Work> anything that has to do with Java is by definition stupid
1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
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Wilde is a 4' chinese man in a bright pink tutu, lime green pimp hat with peacock feathers, and a purple feather boa, wearing tissue stuffed snakeskin combat boots, holding a gun bigger than he is, smoking a cigarette in the parking garage, trying to look menacing while pouting and head banging to Godsmack I stand alone |
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