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I got to meet an American that is a few steps away from the worse of America. Man was this guy a fucking tool. However I had to be nice as this guy was friend's of the bride and groom.
All the other American friends were cool and fun to hang out with, but this guy was so damn pro-american and blind nationalistic it drove me fucking nuts. And it wasn't like we were saying anything for this guy to say the stuff he'd say.
For example he'd say out of the blue, 'you know if America had been around before America would have invented and invented it better.'
Eh? Okay.
And then he'd say to the bride, 'before you become chinese, lets go out there and be american one last time', to which I asked what that meant and had to try really hard not to beat the shit out of the obese mother fucker. And yes, he was an obese fat fucker.
Just unbelievable. I feel sorry for the foreigners that meet him if he were the first American they would meet because he just gives the worse impression to people. The sad thing is that this guy is actually a really nice guy when he didn't make random pro-america statements. So we'd get along just fine and make jokes. And he was cool when I yelled out to my cali friends, 'we all know california is a state full of sluts!', to which he looks at me and say, 'my family is from california'. I apologised but he was chill and said that there might be some truth to what I say because his family is pretty large and breed like rabbits. 
Seriously, I make it sound like I have problems with this guy, but I don't. Just irked me with some of these really random asine comments that came out from no where. 'We invent it better if we were there.'
Yeah, nuclear power came from European scientists who had to escape from the war torn European nations and America providing the funds from with the massive financial resources they had.
Money + Resources + Intelligent HUMAN BEINGS == scientific progress
America didn't invent anything as much as no other nation invented anything either. It's individul people that either had some brilliant insight or were just plain tripping out on some drugs and saw that light in the tunnel of blissful darkness.
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This other American guy that I met had travelled all over and he was a lot more interesting to talk too. We talked about the current political state in the US and he said that according to his father the current situation has become so polarized between the two parties.
He think's Kerry will be voted in because a vote for Kerry is actually a vote against Bush and Bush is not very liked at the moment. Ironic as I think Bush will win. So I tried to set up some betting with him as HK is a heavy gambling society and figured he get the full HK treat: 'lets bet on who is going to become president!'
Then I'd yell out, 'you just know Nader is going to win!!!111!!!' To which I get told that he isn't even going to be on the ballet. To which I yell out, 'but but but, the butterfly will make sure he'll get voted for!!111!!!'
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OscarWilde
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I am allowed to make fun of Californians because I studied there, I have a drivers license, and I got a car tax refund because the governator thought that would be a good way to reduce state defecit (sp?) by sending money to non-american residents living overseas.
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/me groans at the idea of that guy embarassing us all...
I really hope Kerry doesn't get it; he simply strikes me as unfit, especially with his history of waffling. (Please note, I do not intend this to be a debate, simply a statement of opinion.)
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According to economists (that I trust), if the economy stays at its current levels Bush will win in a landslide.
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Kerry strikes me as unfit as well. But then again, so does Bush. Guess you guys are just up shit creek without a paddle  
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This is how you deal with those type of people OW:
YUO: So dude, there's this guy I think you ought to meet in <INSERT LOCATION OF LOCAL "BAD NEIGHBORHOOD">. He doesn't know much about America and bad mouth's it a lot. Look for the pissed off looking skinny guy with a fu man chu, with bulging pockets shaped like weapons. Did you know it's local custom to greet strange men by smacking them in the face as hard as you can? Wouldn't want them to think you're a homo!
T00L: Cool! I'll teach him to badmouth America! GO JOE!
T00L: Smack! AAAAACHG! *DEAD*
YUO: I don't know where that fat guy is. He said something about sushi or some such shit, and I told him how to get to Japan. Do you think he went?
AUDIENCE: LOL!
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That's amusing in so many ways. I used to get mail from my friends in the states with HK, Japan written on the envelope. Sometimes I'd call my friends long distance and it would be their mom and they would say, 'oh, are you the friend from Hong Kong, Japan?'
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That's amusing in so many ways. I used to get mail from my friends in the states with HK, Japan written on the envelope. Sometimes I'd call my friends long distance and it would be their mom and they would say, 'oh, are you the friend from Hong Kong, Japan?' |
I've heard americans are some of the worst at geography. It's sick. I couldn't throw down tons of names on a blank map, but I've got a pretty good idea where things are when I hear the name. (Except Georgia. I think the state would come to mind before the chunk of the former USSR. I know where that is too, but if you ask me, I'd likely say "Near Florida" )
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That's amusing in so many ways. I used to get mail from my friends in the states with HK, Japan written on the envelope. Sometimes I'd call my friends long distance and it would be their mom and they would say, 'oh, are you the friend from Hong Kong, Japan?' |
I've heard americans are some of the worst at geography. It's sick.
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As an american I have to say that it's true and very sick. It's mostly city-folk, though, that suck at it. Here in the midwest in the rural parts ask a farmer where hong kong or singapore is he'll tell you. Hell, he'll tell you the price of wheat in Russia and why factory tomatoes are inferior to organic in a salad or sandwich.
Go into the city and ask any stranger and most won't have a clue where Hong Kong is other than, "Isn't that where they went in Rush Hour 2?"
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| According to economists (that I trust), if the economy stays at its current levels Bush will win in a landslide. |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5383782/?GT1=4244
I think you can find links to articles and expert opinion that says one way or the other.
I still think Bush is going to win; but only because Kerry is so weak as a candidate. Also, if Kerry does win, it will only be, because as my friend said, it's a vote against Bush rather a vote for Kerry.
I still say vote for Nader and allow one HK individual (me) to laugh his ass off at you guys.
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| According to economists (that I trust), if the economy stays at its current levels Bush will win in a landslide. |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5383782/?GT1=4244
I think you can find links to articles and expert opinion that says one way or the other.
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True, but I don't follow all economists because many have an agenda (ie Krugman).
That said, I can't vote for Kerry/Edwards but might have at least considered Edwards/Kerry.
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Oh, I wasn't suggesting you had a bias; I meant it's so hard to really predict the outcome because of apparently how polarized the elections are. And why does an HK individual follow such news in the US? Well, because outside of the US, when people follow international news, it means every country including the US. Hence why I know what's going on to an extent in the US as well; that plus I did live there for a while to have more then a passing interest in the nation.
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I think you can find links to articles and expert opinion that says one way or the other.
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In Cana-d'eh we had all the newspapers predicting a Tory minority government or at best a 50-50 split, right up until election day. Instead we got a Liberal government. Moral of the story: don't trust polls.
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DAMN YOU FOR REMINDING ME!!! 
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Kerry's not running. At the last minute, Hillary will take over, and she'll run...
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I translate Mord's post as meaning JR's preferred hockey team didn't win?
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Nope, 'fraid not.
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I translate Mord's post as meaning JR's preferred hockey team didn't win?
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Well, my preferred hockey team would have been the Canucks, but the Flames beat them in the first round in 7 games.
Last night I had a dream that I personally helped the Canucks win that 7th game instead. I tell you, my life has been a waste, I should have been a professional hockey player.
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I'm laughing my ass off right now about the whole Kerry/Edwards vs. Bush/Chaney thing currently.
Kerry was ripping Bush about his "vacation" days...
Then with a little research Newsweek found Kerry had only been present for his Senate votes 20% of the time.
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones...
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I'm laughing my ass off right now about the whole Kerry/Edwards vs. Bush/Chaney thing currently.
Kerry was ripping Bush about his "vacation" days...
Then with a little research Newsweek found Kerry had only been present for his Senate votes 20% of the time.
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones...
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Not being present for senate votes does not mean Kerry was on holiday. He may have been busy on other political affairs.
This isn't exactly logic stuff they use to test too see if you get into MENSA you know. It's fairly basic premise is incomplete and does not lead to a logical conclusion type stuff. Sorta like research that shows during summer there is an increase consumption of ice cream and an increase in number of people that have heart attacks. We can't just jump and say, 'oh noes, ice cream causes heart attacks', equally as we can't say being absent for senate votes means Kerry took holidays.
This is how bias works. We look for numbers and data and then somehow loosely tie them to a pre-desired conclusion.
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| This is how bias works. We look for numbers and data and then somehow loosely tie them to a pre-desired conclusion. |
Nonsense.
"Bias" is people whom don't agree with me.
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| FondueDaredevil wrote: |
| OscarWilde wrote: |
| This is how bias works. We look for numbers and data and then somehow loosely tie them to a pre-desired conclusion. |
Nonsense.
"Bias" is people whom don't agree with me.
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Yes!
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