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Jeremy Reimer

Remember Socrates little avatar stealing games?

Ah, memories... Wink

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AllYorBaseRBelong2Us · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 1:41 pm Post subject:

indeed.

that isn't the first time this has happened.

it can be difficult remaining perfectly unique, that is why we need so many avatars.
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This and other statistics can be culled from Jeremy Reimer's Personal Computer Market Share: 1975-2002, a very impressive piece of information gathering. The numbers tell some very interesting stories.
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Mord · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 1:44 pm Post subject:

I see these Joy of Tech comics posted in forums from time to time, and I always promise myself to start reading it regularly, but usually forget.
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Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

I still enjoy the variety, and just pissing Pizza off.
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jdsmith575 · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 10:44 pm Post subject:

Did anyone else look at the two computers and think the bottom one looks a lot like a G3 Desktop? I'm such a maclot.
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FondueDaredevil · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 10:54 pm Post subject:

I liked this one a lot .. I'll explain it you aren't Canadian or didn't watch much television in the 80's.

FD
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Mord · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 10:55 pm Post subject:

I'm a canuck and I don't get it....
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I note that you don't have any OSY member quotes in your sig. - the twinkster
Nonsense. "Bias" is people whom don't agree with me. - FondueDaredevil

Gabe: I wish you weren't a fucking liar.
Tycho: I'm not a liar.
Gabe: Well, I wish you didn't lie.

Harbinger · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:18 pm Post subject:

OMG FDD! Who the fink created that!?

Laughing

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Magus · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:26 pm Post subject:

Explain.
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longmarch · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:34 pm Post subject:

FondueDaredevil · Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:45 pm Post subject:

Mord · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 10:43 am Post subject:

Oh shit! That's right. I guess it didn't click in the drawing. If it had been a photo I would have caught that for sure. The name is only vaguely familiar to me, as I have only ever seen short clips of it.
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Give a guy a gun, he thinks he's Superman. Give him two and he thinks he's God. - Superintendant Pang, Lashou shentan (a.k.a. Hard-Boiled)
I note that you don't have any OSY member quotes in your sig. - the twinkster
Nonsense. "Bias" is people whom don't agree with me. - FondueDaredevil

Gabe: I wish you weren't a fucking liar.
Tycho: I'm not a liar.
Gabe: Well, I wish you didn't lie.

Jeremy Reimer · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 11:42 am Post subject:

Edith Prickley...
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-- Carl Sagan

"Its not a rule. Its just something I noticed. Several of us have more than one sig." - Mord

"No, you are a troll, and I should have never let you back to Ars in after the first 16,000 bannings." - Caesar, to He Who Shall Not Be Named

Magus · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 12:26 pm Post subject:

Sounds like a woman you don't want to meet in an alley, dark or light.
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<Paolo|Work> anything that has to do with Java is by definition stupid

1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
-HitScan

Wilde is a 4' chinese man in a bright pink tutu, lime green pimp hat with peacock feathers, and a purple feather boa, wearing tissue stuffed snakeskin combat boots, holding a gun bigger than he is, smoking a cigarette in the parking garage, trying to look menacing while pouting and head banging to Godsmack I stand alone

jdsmith575 · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 10:51 pm Post subject:

longmarch · Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 8:02 am Post subject:

Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

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Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

LM:
First check what power regulator you have. If it's a royal, you might fry your mobo.

See owc pages for clear how to find and check the regulator.

Now, we be fucked with beiges, since the max processor upgrade is to 533 currently, I think that's a 9x multiplier. In theory, 10 is possible.

Someone out there may figure out a way to unlock that multiplier, but, I've heard it is not an easy problem, and not one likely to happen in the near future.

Frankly, the combination of needing a new regulator, and the jump in performance to maybe twice your existing processor, just doesn't seem cost effective.

Why not buy a used 9600, and install a 800 mhz processor, and have a bunch of pci slots?

Problem with beiges are the pci bus is limited to 75 mb/sec, and the ide bus is limited to 16 mb/sec, both on cheap chipsets being used, to keep profits up.

I guess what I'm getting at is this is one of those cases where you maybe better off selling the thing, and picking up another box, rather then upgrading the machine.

It's also limited to 3 pci slots. It also doesn't seem to like using more then one kind of scsi card in the machine.

On the other hand, if one of these days, for about 300 bucks, I could upgrade, and double the processor speed, plus adding a G4, it might be worth doing, since I do have a bunch of stuff that I can connect to it, and I do like the onboard ethernet and slow scsi.

I don't see running much over 922 on the machine, since too many problems occur with trying to run OS X, like it won't see my scsi cards, either the LVD, or the uw card.

s

Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

http://eshop.macsales.com/descriptions/specs/Framework.cfm?page=vrm.html&title=Royal%20Voltage%20Regulator%20Module

By the way, I think the beige tower was one of the all time great rat fucks by apple, of all time. They sold this thing at premium prices, 3 grand,
with a half ass ide chipset, and a pos grackle pci chipset.

You paid for what should have been a workstation quality machine, and got a desktop.

Course, dell did sort of the same thing, using a similar chipset that limits the ide bus to only one device per channel.

Same thing Apple did on the A ide bus, IIRC.

One has to be very careful buying apple computers, or, you get royally fucked...

s

longmarch · Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 1:25 pm Post subject:

Socrates:

I know about the Royal VRM issue. It's the first thing I checked when I got my Mac. I've been running a G4 400 for a month or so. I got the 400 to see what a G4 would do for me. It works well enough I think it worth it to max out the processor.

Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

LM:
Sounds like you know what you are doing.

I'm just sick of pissing money away for mac upgrades, when, for the same money, I could build one hell of a pc.

Look at how much money you put in, and what you get out???

I still look at this stuff, and compare the PC side, and the quality stuff I could get for the same money, without any sorry ass chipsets, or other problem components to deal with.

The beiges were real take you to the cleaner computers. Advertized as server quality machines, with MacPlus Quality components, refering to the
ide chipsets, and the grackle chipset.

10BT works fine for me, since so are my hubs, and, my ADSL doesn't come in over 1.5 MB/sec.

I think one thing the processor upgrade would really help is I always have had the feeling the processor was not capable of handling the number of peripherals I tied into it.

If for no other reason, this might make the upgrade worth it.

Again, I'll wait, and see if someone figures out a way around the bus limitations, and can gete a multiplier around 16x, like they do for the pci macs.

If not, I find it reasonably well balanced, with a 40 MB sec cheetah xl18 boot drive, Voodoo 5500 video card, 9.22, 384 mb of ram, and 922.

I also have a Nikon 1200 scanner, SBS pci extension box, and a bunch of other periphs, if you are intrested, and in the bay area, make me an offer...

s

jdsmith575 · Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 2:22 pm Post subject:

My upgrading experice is limited to trying to put in a processor upgrade for my Performa 575 that I found when Incredible Universe was going out of business. I couldn't get it into the case, and there was a broken pin to begin with. I'll sit out this discussion.
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"I can tell that you're a renaissance man... and by that I mean a sissy." - Scott Adams
"Gold Bond works wonders though, it's like 1000 fairies blowing on your nuts." - Short Bus Driver
"I learned something really important in college today. I don't want to be there." - King of the Hill

Thundar · Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 10:08 am Post subject:

She sounds quite manly...
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Mord · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 9:47 am Post subject:

Does she have man-hands?
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Give a guy a gun, he thinks he's Superman. Give him two and he thinks he's God. - Superintendant Pang, Lashou shentan (a.k.a. Hard-Boiled)
I note that you don't have any OSY member quotes in your sig. - the twinkster
Nonsense. "Bias" is people whom don't agree with me. - FondueDaredevil

Gabe: I wish you weren't a fucking liar.
Tycho: I'm not a liar.
Gabe: Well, I wish you didn't lie.

Magus · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 11:01 am Post subject:

/me smacks everyone with live trout
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<Paolo|Work> anything that has to do with Java is by definition stupid

1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
-HitScan

Wilde is a 4' chinese man in a bright pink tutu, lime green pimp hat with peacock feathers, and a purple feather boa, wearing tissue stuffed snakeskin combat boots, holding a gun bigger than he is, smoking a cigarette in the parking garage, trying to look menacing while pouting and head banging to Godsmack I stand alone