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DrPizza
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| I'm aware that you can but the problem is, if I give you an IP today and tomorrow it's something else, will you be able to reach the site unless I CONSTANTLY give you a "heads up" about the IP? |
If you give me an IP address, I'll forget it /anyway/.
If you instead tell me "madan.dyndns.org" it'll work perpetually and I'll actually remember it.
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| I know. But I expected 66%-76% of the "top speed". Somewhere around 1mbps...not HALF of what they promise is a top speed. |
You may have expected it, but they don't have to deliver it. They never promised you'd actually see that speed on a regular basis; it only has to happen once for a split second for them to be correct.
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| If you buy a car that is "supposed" to drive at 180mph and it, in fact moves at 150/130mph, you'll be pissed but not enormously. If, in fact, the car only moves at 90mph, you'll be profoundly pissed. |
If the reason for its inability to go that fast is the amount of traffic around, I wouldn't be pissed at all.
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| Because I have friends on 2k and 98 that are getting pings of 250. Not great to be sure but, on average, about 150 below mine. |
If 2K can get pings of 250 you'll have to give me a damn good reason for XP to be unable of such a feat.
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| I've also seen XP complaints about Quake III. Most likely, as Jeremy said, they didn't optimize Arena for XP but, again, I don't see why they should. After all, everyone touts that XP is almost as good as 98 for games... |
They don't have to "optimize" it for XP. To be honest, I don't think that such a thing is possible, other than avoiding using pipes, which they won't be using anyway.
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You've seen dial-up at 750 kbit/sec? Where?! Federal communications regulations limit it to 53 kbit/sec or so.
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| On snailband AOL, my ping was 725. Never higher. I've had dialup jockeys wax my ass because my ping MAXES OUT at 999 ceilings. |
And your ping on broadband is lower, apparently, so what on earth is your problem?
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| You can't "smoke" any dialup user if your ping and latency are 33% higher than theirs. :rolleyes: |
Speak for yourself.
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| Fuck you. If you can whine like a bitch about FPS being unacceptable at 40FPS, I can bitch about unplayable ping levels. |
When have I done any such thing? I regularly game online with pings of 300 ms (that's what comes of playing on US servers) -- it's not an insurmountable problem.
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| At 350 ping, you're getting a connection loss of over 60%. |
Er... what?
Ping time and packet loss are quite unrelated.
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That means I'm a fucking tree more than half the time.
Go blow yourself. |
Boo hoo.
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Socrates
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Madan, at least you have a chest, unlike Ensign Roe...
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Riso
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| DrPizza wrote: |
| I regularly game online with pings of 300 ms (that's what comes of playing on US servers) -- it's not an insurmountable problem. |
That's weak. I ping 200 to US servers.
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Madan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 4:52 am Post subject: |
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300 ms is a ping == tree.
You can't play Arena with that. Period.
If PeterB had a clue and pulled his head out of his ass and actually PLAYED Arena online, he'd know that... |
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DrPizza
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| Madan wrote: |
300 ms is a ping == tree.
You can't play Arena with that. Period. |
Maybe you can't, but I'm sure others manage it.
It doesn't "== tree". The tendency to get stuck in one place is a function of packet loss, not ping or latency.
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| If PeterB had a clue and pulled his head out of his ass and actually PLAYED Arena online, he'd know that... |
Why on earth would I want to play Q3A? It has no single player of which to speak, and relatively uninteresting multiplayer. Play SoF2 or something like that.
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char a[99999],*p=a;main(c,V)char**V;{char*v=c>0?1[V]:V;if(c)for(;(c=*v)&&93^
c;p+=!(62^c)-!(60^c),*p+=!(43^c)-!(45^c),44^c||read(0,p,1),46^c||putchar(*p)
,91^c||(v=*p?main(-1,v+1),v-1:main(0,v)),++v);else for(;c+=!(91^*v)-!(93^*v)
;++v);return v;} /* brainf*** program as argv[1] */
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Riso
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| Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Q3 sucks above 50 ping, and HL sucks above 150 ping.
Less ping == better
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Jeremy Reimer
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Bah, play on a LAN, that's the best way, see and kill your friends in the same room!
We had many a happy hour at EA playing Counterstrike that way. Of course those were the only happy hours at EA, but still...
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