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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 12:37 pm    Post subject: Quotes that make you go... WTF? Reply with quote

I was reading in Software Colloquium today and came across this thread, in which MWNH says this:

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I don't use WinXP and I won't buy it since I'm using Win2k and thus consider WinXP to be a mere Service Pack, but as a Win9x replacement; it's worth its price.


A few things crossed my mind when I read this...
- He is unaware of/purposefully ignoring benefits, such as ClearType
- "This, from a guy who bought a CUBE when it was new, and advocates big iron?!"

I just had to shake my head. Could be that I'm in a pissy mood, I dunno.


Please feel free to comment on the quote, or to add your own (thus lending some perpetuity to the thread).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember that MWNH stated (and refused to admit he was wrong) that Windows 9x had no memory protection OR pre-emptive multitasking.

Big Eek

If Infopop's search function actually worked, I'd find the thread. It was last year sometime I think. Win9x has limited memory protection, it's true, but it's TOTALLY WRONG to say that it has no memory protection. Win32 apps are fully protected from other Win32 apps. And saying that it has no PMT was just... What the fuck?

But again, this is MWNH we're talking about here, the man who thinks PCs are just "toys" for "PC bunnies" and Real Men use Big Iron. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A. XP es MUCHO mas bonito que 2k.

B. Win 98 no tiene memoria protejida completa. Win 98, por admitencia de Microsoft tiene memoria protejida "parcial" y, ni la mayoria de la memoria tiene guardia effectiva.

C. MWNH tiene much dinero y puede comprar un Apple Cube si quiere...

D. Ciao.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had I retained any of my HS Spanish, I might have been able to comprehend anything after the first sentence. Well, I understand the first half of C but my vocabulary no longer includes the verb "puede."

And shouldn't D be "adios" instead? Wink



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Quotes that make you go... WTF? Reply with quote

Harbinger wrote:
... - He is unaware of/purposefully ignoring benefits, such as ClearType ...
As nice as it is, ClearType is not a compelling reason to switch over to XP.

Also, there is nothing wrong with advocating Big Iron.

On the other hand, buying a CUBE right when it came out is pure stupidity. Surprised


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Quotes that make you go... WTF? Reply with quote

FondueDaredevil wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
... - He is unaware of/purposefully ignoring benefits, such as ClearType ...
As nice as it is, ClearType is not a compelling reason to switch over to XP.


I was merely using it as an example of one of what I consider to be a Good Thing that XP has over 2K; and for me personally, it's important (that's why it was the first to come to mind).

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Also, there is nothing wrong with advocating Big Iron.


I didn't mean to imply otherwise; rather, I was trying to show that he has no worries about spending much moolah but still says he wouldn't purchase XP (which can be as low as $89US off the shelf, barring any special deals).

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On the other hand, buying a CUBE right when it came out is pure stupidity. Surprised


On that point, I wholeheartedly concur.
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I heard that even small amounts of smam are highly unstable. Like anti-matter, only with polka dots. -- Mord

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you surprised? That quote is typical MWNH arrogant ignorance.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a nice one:
"UNIX and Linux are the same thing." - my roommate

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In many South/Central/Caribean-Spanish-speaking nations(as well as parts of Spain), "ciao" can mean "hello" or "goodbye".

Hello, sometimes is also known as "cubo", like in Cuba.

Which, frighteningly enough, sounds like "cube".

I'll let you draw your own conclusions...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdsmith:
Linux is a unix-like OS, according to the Penguins.

Madan:
I thought "ciao" was Italian? Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

"I'm even l33ter with PS."


It's true. I am.

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A. XP es MUCHO mas bonito que 2k.


I'm guessing you're saying XP is much better than 2k, or something.

Quote:

B. Win 98 no tiene memoria protejida completa. Win 98, por admitencia de Microsoft tiene memoria protejida "parcial" y, ni la mayoria de la memoria tiene guardia effectiva.


Something about Win98's memory protection being incomplete, partial. Well, duh. Incomplete is not the same as non-existent.

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C. MWNH tiene much dinero y puede comprar un Apple Cube si quiere...


MWNH spent lots of money on a Cube... ??

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D. Ciao.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Linux is a unix-like OS" <> "UNIX and Linux are the same thing."

And then I bitch slapped him.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magus wrote:
I thought "ciao" was Italian? Confused


Yet in many of the Latin-based languages and in many of the countires which speak them, it is slang or even common usage. In Argentina, for instance, where a good portion of the population is of Italian descent, "ciao" is common usage, and it is frequently heard in France as slang or affectation.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back OT:

I read today where RiscRocket claimed that OSX is a brand new OS written from scratch.

Some Mac users responded with, essentially, "WTF are you talking about?"



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I read today where RiscRocket claimed that OSX is a brand new OS written from scratch.

Some Mac users responded with, essentially, "WTF are you talking about?"


Yes, and someone else suggested he should perhaps search my detailed reports on Rhapsody, Openstep and OSX which explains exactly what was carried over from each operating system (Rhapsody, for one, is virtually identical to Openstep 4.2)

It seems that, in RiscRocket's case, that no amount of education can possibly overcome his stupidity.

And that sums up much of the Battlefront as well. <sigh>
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question. Parts of OSX are built off of Nix, to be sure.

Is Aqua new or recycled, though? It's new right?

And another question: I've noticed that MS XP's GDI+ doesn't have vector support for images, like X. It seems to be more of a traditional OS UI, ala 2k with ClearType grafted on top. Is this true?

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Bits of Aqua are new. The bitmaps are new (the sort of thing I can duplicate in 5 minutes in Photoshop) Transparencies, shadows, etc were added. The user interface was changed from Rhapsody.

If we're talking Quartz, the display layer was changed from Display Postcript to Display PDF, which involved a rewrite to avoid Adobe proprietary code. Postcript and PDF are virtually identical-- this was a clever thing done by Adobe to leverage their enormous Postcript investment in the new web world.

Obviously there was quite a lot of work put into turning Openstep into OSX. However, there was even more work put into turning Windows NT 3.1 into Windows XP. A lot more.

Windows XP is NT 5.1, although I would have called it 5.5 or even 6.0.

OSX is, if anything, Openstep 6.2 for PPC. Openstep was always designed to be able to add on different APIs, although until OSX they always stuck with the same NeXTstep one, which is now called Cocoa even if all the API calls do still begin with NS. Adding Carbon was just a matter of adding a new API based loosely on the old crappy MacOS one(easy to do given the structure of Openstep/OSX) and Classic is just a big fat emulator running a copy of OS9 in a window.
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Yes, and someone else suggested he should perhaps search my detailed reports on Rhapsody, Openstep and OSX which explains exactly what was carried over from each operating system (Rhapsody, for one, is virtually identical to Openstep 4.2)

It seems that, in RiscRocket's case, that no amount of education can possibly overcome his stupidity.


Yeah, now your posts on the subject are your "opinion." I didn't realize that suddenly (in the RR Bizarro universe) that history is now "opinion." Who'd have thought? Rolling Eyes

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And that sums up much of the Battlefront as well. <sigh>


Sad but true. Thankfully I've been kept so busy at work that I haven't had to avoid or boycott the BF. I haven't been getting the entertainment value out of it that I used to.
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