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 Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: My iBook motherboard failed |
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Damnit my iBook motherboard failed during class. Lucky I still have zee Applecare. (Or else I would get a anal assraping with the 80 euro/hour repaircosts + new motherboard)
The guy at the apple store tought it was the 256 mb of ram I added. (It wasn't), he said I was lucky to have bought the applecare.
Hope it returns soon.
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That sucks.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: My iBook motherboard failed |
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| The guy at the apple store tought it was the 256 mb of ram I added. |
How the hell can a stick of memory blow a motherboard, pray tell? 
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Well I hope they fix it fast and correctly. But it sucks major ass to be without a laptop or mac.
I was lucky I made some back up yesterday night so I only lost 20 lines on a document, and some calculations.
Well I hope this don't with me writing angry letters to steve and he mistakenly fire me or something like that. 
How can it blow up a motherboard? No fucking clue, maybe if you buy it from FunPrice computers. (yes that's an actual store) But I had some quality Dane Electric.
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So Dane Elec is a good brand? You don't see it over here in Canada (at least I never do). But I ordered a 512MB SD Card from Tigerdirect over a year ago for the then good price of $53.99. Actually, I'm not even sure you can get one over the counter from the big retailers for that price yet.
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In europe they are quite a high end brand. I paid way more than I should for it. But everytime I check it with the OS9y memcheck it turns out correctly. (But I have little faith in that tester)
But to be honest I suprised that my iBook lasted as long as it did. I was seriously spanking it these last months. (All night renders, physics calculations, compiles)
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: My iBook motherboard failed |
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| Magus wrote: |
| Count_Blah wrote: |
| The guy at the apple store tought it was the 256 mb of ram I added. |
How the hell can a stick of memory blow a motherboard, pray tell?
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I don't think it's the actual memory that does the damage, but the possible static discharge that can happen when one installs memory without prior rubbing of the fur.. no wait... wearing a metal strap and plugging it to a wall outlet... yeah that's it.
I guess for a laptop, the one thing that can be changed easily is the memory: so possibly someone installs the memory: this someone is a human lightning rod: discharges copious amounts of current current into the motherboard: motherboard becomes iFried.
However, I assume these problems occur immediately after installing the memory. Although I've read in some cases problems can take a while to manifest itself. Who knows.
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Grounding straps aren't really necessary if you're careful, but mandatory at some places.
Another good way to keep the system itself grounded it to leave it plugged in. Just turn off the PSU so that the caps don't stay charged.
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| Speaking of adding memory to a Mac, is there a good way to test it? Prime95 for the Mac? Bootable memtest? |
I'd ask this question at the Mac Achia where you'll probably get a few good suggestions. You could check out Memtest available at version tracker. The site is not the end all and be all of solutions for the mac, but it's a start.
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| Speaking of adding memory to a Mac, is there a good way to test it? Prime95 for the Mac? Bootable memtest? |
I'd ask this question at the Mac Achia where you'll probably get a few good suggestions. You could check out Memtest available at version tracker. The site is not the end all and be all of solutions for the mac, but it's a start.
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That all smacks of effort. I'll just rely on the omniscience of the smam.
That and Blah already mentioned something that pretty much answered my question: that there is a mac memtest utility of some sort. That's good enough for me until I actually need one, which I currently forecast as "never".
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| Grounding straps aren't really necessary if you're careful, but mandatory at some places. |
Sorry, when I meant plug in the straps to the wall, I quite literally meant to plug it in live. LOL... i was being really silly... I thought when I suggested rubbing fur, it would have given away the silliness. I love it when people give serious thought to something that was meant to be silly.
None the less, what you say is true. 
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That and Blah already mentioned something that pretty much answered my question: that there is a mac memtest utility of some sort. That's good enough for me until I actually need one, which I currently forecast as "never". |
Ah, okay. That makes sense.
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A bad stick of RAM could fry a memory controller if it had solder bridges or whatever. Maybe.
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| OscarWilde wrote: |
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| Grounding straps aren't really necessary if you're careful, but mandatory at some places. |
Sorry, when I meant plug in the straps to the wall, I quite literally meant to plug it in live. LOL... i was being really silly... I thought when I suggested rubbing fur, it would have given away the silliness. I love it when people give serious thought to something that was meant to be silly.
None the less, what you say is true.
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Yeah I just scanned your post. Completely missed the part about plugging into a wall outlet and the rubbing of fur.
Although technical you could plug your strap into the groud line of a three prong outlet....
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| Mord wrote: |
| OscarWilde wrote: |
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| Grounding straps aren't really necessary if you're careful, but mandatory at some places. |
Sorry, when I meant plug in the straps to the wall, I quite literally meant to plug it in live. LOL... i was being really silly... I thought when I suggested rubbing fur, it would have given away the silliness. I love it when people give serious thought to something that was meant to be silly.
None the less, what you say is true.
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Yeah I just scanned your post. Completely missed the part about plugging into a wall outlet and the rubbing of fur.
Although technical you could plug your strap into the groud line of a three prong outlet....
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You can also buy some gimped-out extension cords that only have the ground connected. They are all green, I guess so you will associate them with a ground connection and not be all pissed off when nothing works that's plugged into them.
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Although technical you could plug your strap into the groud line of a three prong outlet.... |
I'd only do that if I was on the show, 'Jackass', and wanted to risk getting electrocuted. How many amps does it take to stop the heart? 0.2mA? It takes way to little current to do too much damage to the body. Not going to risk it no matter what. I'm actually really cautious around live wires and sources of current. Almost to the point of having a phobia about it. Electro-phobia.
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| Just do what I do and jam knives in the sockets. |
That works EVERY time.
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| Just do what I do and jam knives in the sockets. |
That works EVERY time.
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Although technical you could plug your strap into the groud line of a three prong outlet.... |
I'd only do that if I was on the show, 'Jackass', and wanted to risk getting electrocuted. How many amps does it take to stop the heart? 0.2mA? It takes way to little current to do too much damage to the body. Not going to risk it no matter what. I'm actually really cautious around live wires and sources of current. Almost to the point of having a phobia about it. Electro-phobia.
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Yeah, but the GROUND line. Its the one that isn't a slot. Usually at the bottom of the plug/outlet. A banana plug fits nicely there.
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| Mord wrote: |
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Although technical you could plug your strap into the groud line of a three prong outlet.... |
I'd only do that if I was on the show, 'Jackass', and wanted to risk getting electrocuted. How many amps does it take to stop the heart? 0.2mA? It takes way to little current to do too much damage to the body. Not going to risk it no matter what. I'm actually really cautious around live wires and sources of current. Almost to the point of having a phobia about it. Electro-phobia.
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Yeah, but the GROUND line. Its the one that isn't a slot. Usually at the bottom of the plug/outlet. A banana plug fits nicely there.
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Ah, cross country confusion. The ground line here is part of the slot. We live in high rise buildings, so I think the ground actually has to be... err.. grounded. I'm not going to trust an old building that has 32 apts (3 apts/fl for 12 floors) and the chance some electrician may have screwed up the wiring and made the ground a closed circuit. A few months ago, the top 6 floors lost electricity for two hours because of some faulty wiring or some stupid shit. Sorry, electro-phobia means I have irrational fears.
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| Speaking of adding memory to a Mac, is there a good way to test it? Prime95 for the Mac? Bootable memtest? |
I'd just boot it from the hardware test CD and run the long memory test once or twice. Don't waste your time looking for APK_RAM_TEST_2000*****OS_X or anything.
My iBook's going back shortly for the logic board fix. Yay for AppleCare through July.
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| Speaking of adding memory to a Mac, is there a good way to test it? Prime95 for the Mac? Bootable memtest? |
I'd just boot it from the hardware test CD and run the long memory test once or twice. Don't waste your time looking for APK_RAM_TEST_2000*****OS_X or anything.
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I know you're being funny, but I'm a little insulted you'd imply something like that. I have a lot of respect for Prime95 and memtest, and I use them extensively when I build machines. I do not tolerate instability.
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Thank $DIETY$ that APK never touched a Mac and compiled code. Altough Steve would just forbid APK to use a mac, and fire him in the elevator. And such
Damn I miss the bloody thing. One desktop computer feels seriously constrainted compared to desktop and laptop.
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