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Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

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Anybody used this distro?

Comments?

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AnimeFreak · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:26 am Post subject:

Use Debian.

End of story. Smile

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Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

While I'm in the bay area, redhat is the way to go.

Of course, I buck, or bugger other trends in the area as well... Wink

moley · Midshipman Joined: 23 Aug 2002 Posts: 8

I thought Suse was the dog's bollox / badgers nadgers / animal genitalia?
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longmarch · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 2:24 am Post subject:

Let me be the first to welcome yuo to teh Silly Place.

arhra · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:01 am Post subject:

RedHate is teh debbil.
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Imitation Gruel · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:20 am Post subject:

FreeBSD 0\/\/nZ0r a11 yuor Loonix d1s+r0.
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Thundar · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 8:37 am Post subject:

Yes, welcome to the silly place indeed!
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longmarch · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 8:54 am Post subject:

No Red Hat users here? I used to recommend that UNIX newbies try it out if they found Free/OpenBSD too difficult to install, but FreeBSD's installer has gotten a lot better, as has RedHat's competition in the "friendly" Linux distro market. Haven't tried it myself for several years.

Jeremy Reimer · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 9:57 am Post subject:

Red Hat usually works fine, as fine as Loonix gets, anyway. It tends to install a hell of a lot of crap, though.
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Imitation Gruel · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 12:53 pm Post subject:

In this age of availability of 200GB hard drives, I feel that complaining about software size is a little bit stupid.
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Magus · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:31 pm Post subject:

Ah yes, another Smammer! Welcome to OSY!

Hurrah for BSD.
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Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

Size is relative, and, you can limit the install with redhat, it's just a pain. Done it before.

It doesn't do dual installs very well, either.

Have an extra box laying around, 450 P3, gigabyte, 512 mb of ram, Quantum LM, that might work just fine with Redhat, and everything is old enough so I won't have support problems.

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Magus · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:47 pm Post subject:

Are you installing just to play with a *nix? Go BSD. Very Happy

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<Paolo|Work> anything that has to do with Java is by definition stupid

1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
-HitScan

Wilde is a 4' chinese man in a bright pink tutu, lime green pimp hat with peacock feathers, and a purple feather boa, wearing tissue stuffed snakeskin combat boots, holding a gun bigger than he is, smoking a cigarette in the parking garage, trying to look menacing while pouting and head banging to Godsmack I stand alone

Imitation Gruel · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:50 pm Post subject:

Anyone know when FreeBSD 5 will be out?

Last I heard (ages ago), November 2002 was the target.
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"How delightful it would be to converse intimately with someone of the same mind, sharing with him the pleasures of uninhibited conversation on the amusing and foolish things of this world, but such friends are hard to find." -- Kenko Yoshida, Essays In Idleness

Magus · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 2:05 pm Post subject:

What say our BSD men, longmarch and HitScan?
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<Paolo|Work> anything that has to do with Java is by definition stupid

1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
-HitScan

Wilde is a 4' chinese man in a bright pink tutu, lime green pimp hat with peacock feathers, and a purple feather boa, wearing tissue stuffed snakeskin combat boots, holding a gun bigger than he is, smoking a cigarette in the parking garage, trying to look menacing while pouting and head banging to Godsmack I stand alone

Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

I bought FreeBSD, since it's really local, in the Berkeley
area.

However, it refused to install, drivers lacking for the machine I was installing it on, a Soyo mobo, P3 450 or the athlon 950, can't remember which.

I was NOT jazzed.

Linux-Mandrake was the easiest to install. Still, redhat is sort of industry standard around here.

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HitScan · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 2:51 pm Post subject:

longmarch · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:28 pm Post subject:

IG, Magus:

20 November 2002.

HitScan:

People are always telling me how hard OpenBSD's installer is, but it's never given me any trouble. Seems like I first installed it at version 2.4, but I could be off by a few point releases in either direction. It was always primitive, but somehow I muddled through. In days of yore, FreeBSD's installer was similarly crude, but it has improved.

I haven't looked at NetBSD in a long time. I don't have nearly as much odd-ball hardware as I'd like, but I should pick up something weird at the next opportunity just to give it a whirl.

Magus · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 4:30 pm Post subject:

Off topic: (if such is possible here) I couldn't help but laugh at longmarch's avatar again.

That is all.
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<Paolo|Work> anything that has to do with Java is by definition stupid

1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
-HitScan

Wilde is a 4' chinese man in a bright pink tutu, lime green pimp hat with peacock feathers, and a purple feather boa, wearing tissue stuffed snakeskin combat boots, holding a gun bigger than he is, smoking a cigarette in the parking garage, trying to look menacing while pouting and head banging to Godsmack I stand alone

Imitation Gruel · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:30 pm Post subject:

Thanks, longmarch.
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Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

OK:
Giving the horny little red guy a try.

5.0 is half way through the second disk, downloading at about 80K a sec, which is really fast for a nix ftp.

Moving the other box into place, and getting ready to give it a go.

Smile

May download Valhalla(RH 7.3, and burn it just for kicks, to see if it's much different from 7.2).

I just haven't had any place to put it.

I'm done fucking with my Mac, settling on 9.22, since scsi isn't supported, and, it makes no sense to buy an ide card that costs as much as a scsi card, to have to buy drives I don't like, to run an os.

Too bad the chipset on the Beige only goes 16 mb/sec for ide. If it was like ata 33, or 66, I could see giving one of the new WD drives a shot.

Think that would be just fine...

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Imitation Gruel · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 8:09 pm Post subject:

If you're set on a Loonix distro and can wait for one for a few weeks, Mandrake Linux 9.0 should be out sometime in September. Beta4 came out a few days ago.
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"How delightful it would be to converse intimately with someone of the same mind, sharing with him the pleasures of uninhibited conversation on the amusing and foolish things of this world, but such friends are hard to find." -- Kenko Yoshida, Essays In Idleness

longmarch · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 8:19 pm Post subject:

Socrates: Do you realize that the currently available 5.0 version of FreeBSD is only the first developer preview? May be perfectly usable, I don't know, but I wouldn't count on it. (You may have noted that most BSD users are, by non-coincidental inclination, a conservative lot, at least compared to many of their Linux-running brethren.)

Socrates · Captain Joined: 27 Feb 2001 Posts: 2941

Thanks LM. I saw that.

Figured I'd give it a try, since I'm hoping all my hardware is supported, and the latest version might have more, later, drivers.

Could be wrong, however.

Same time, I'm downloading Redhat, just in case.

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