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 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:24 pm Post subject: Whither be the Longhorn for which mine lonely heart yearns? |
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Okay, when does this beta hit the download area for msdn?
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I just wonder if it hits MSDN faster than MacOS X for x86 on The Piratebay.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Beta 1 is slated for late June, I think, FD...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Beta 1 is slated for late June, I think, FD... |
You make a grown man cry ... 
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| The preview for OSX x86 will be out before the Longhorn beta. What a weird fucking day. |
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See if it actually works on any vanilla x86... if it does, I'll be in FUCKING HEAVEN!!!
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Oh, but the minimum requirment for OSx86 is a 3.6ghz P4. WTF?
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Only if you wanna use Rosetta 
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| Oh, but the minimum requirment for OSx86 is a 3.6ghz P4. WTF? |
Oh yeah because that will be enforced  It won't work on plain jane x86 hardware out of the box - but I bet given some time it can be made to work.
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| Oh, but the minimum requirment for OSx86 is a 3.6ghz P4. WTF? |
Oh yeah because that will be enforced It won't work on plain jane x86 hardware out of the box - but I bet given some time it can be made to work.
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I have no doubt too.
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| Oh, but the minimum requirment for OSx86 is a 3.6ghz P4. WTF? |
Oh yeah because that will be enforced It won't work on plain jane x86 hardware out of the box - but I bet given some time it can be made to work.
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I have no doubt too.
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I'm betting it'll work on standard stuff right out of the box... I don't care what "The Steve" says... or at least with a very minimal amount of effort
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| MasterOfTheHat wrote: |
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| Oh, but the minimum requirment for OSx86 is a 3.6ghz P4. WTF? |
Oh yeah because that will be enforced It won't work on plain jane x86 hardware out of the box - but I bet given some time it can be made to work.
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I have no doubt too.
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I'm betting it'll work on standard stuff right out of the box... I don't care what "The Steve" says... or at least with a very minimal amount of effort
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Seeing as how Mac hackers got OS X to work on non-supported mac hardware, even ones like the 603 and 604 PPC based Powermacs, I don't see how an OS X designed for Intel x86 won't have even more hackers working on getting OS X to work on vanilla PC boxes.
So yeah. As I said, I have no doubt we'll see OS X 10.4.1 and later version work without much hassle.
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One thing worth mentioning that I caught on the Ars fora: It seems that the latest binary version of Darwin is compiled with SSE2 optimizations on the x86 side of things. Given Apple's high minimum requirements on the x86 side - it wouldn't surprise me if OSX itself was compiled with SSE2 optimizations. This of course by default requires that you run in on a processor with SSE2 capabilities (i.e. a Pentium4 or greater). So this automatically keeps older Pentium 3s and Athlons (not entirely sure with Athlon's have SSE2) from being able to run OSX x86.
Rumor also has it that OSX x86 won't require SSE3 due to the fact that Intel's mobile processors still don't support it. So things are still looking good for my Dual Xeon  |
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"Wherefore" means "why".
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Yes, "Whither be the Longhorn for which mine lonely heart yearns" would have been a much more grammatically correct, and humorous, thread title.
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I got on a read the comparision thread kick, and apparently the OS X kernal is pretty suck ass at server functions, due to it's current design.
Who cares about long horn, when XP 64 bit is avaliable, and Athlon 64's are cheap?
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| HitScan wrote: |
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| "Wherefore" means "why". |
Yes, "Whither be the Longhorn for which mine lonely heart yearns" would have been a much more grammatically correct, and humorous, thread title.
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Done.
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| FondueDaredevil wrote: |
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| lewis wrote: |
| "Wherefore" means "why". |
Yes, "Whither be the Longhorn for which mine lonely heart yearns" would have been a much more grammatically correct, and humorous, thread title.
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lewis beat me to it.
Nice new title, though.
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FondueDaredevil
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| Magus wrote: |
lewis beat me to it.
Nice new title, though. |
I think so, too. I think the Romeo and Juliet quote subtitle fits, too.
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I think it goes something like this for Athlon's:
Athlon XP - SSE
Athlon 64 - SSE2
Athlon 64 (Venice core) - SSE3
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Well, XP 64 Pro is going on my new AMD64 box, just to see what all the squaking is about...
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Well, XP 64 Pro is going on my new AMD64 box, just to see what all the squaking is about...
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Try to install 32-bit programs.
Is it supposed to work? I have no idea.
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June is coming to a close, and still no longporn!
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XXXXX
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