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Mord
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: Linux: for the discerning supervillain |
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As is typical with most stuff like this that I post, I'm probably 10-15 behind the curve and everyone else has seen it already. If so, enjoy it again.
http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/switchlinux3.swf
In other news, the balance of power has shifted in my household as my ex-laptop cum kitchen computer has been wiped and I plan to re-install its OEM copy of Windows. Linux ran fine on it, but running "emerge world" only to have both the wireless card and integrated sound completely break due to changes in the software is a bit too much for me. I made a token effort at repairing them, but I refuse to fix the problems more on principal than anything else.
There's still a chance for an install of Ubuntu or Fedora as long as the floppy boot slash network install procedure works as advertised (as the DVD ROM is borked in it). But most likely I'll just do a networked install of Windows XP and be done with the bloody thing. Besides, I want to see if WoW will run on it. (It's doubtful, despite being a Celeron 1.8Ghz, the video card is a Radeon Mobility but only 16MB of RAM).
On the bright side, the track pad is working again, once again making it a viable laptop (although nearly 3 years old). I had thought that it too had fallen to hardware malfunction (it was not working and I couldn't fix the bloody thing). Guess I'll just chalk it up to another linux problem (probably of the Gentoo variety as well).
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: |
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I'm regretting the way I partitioned my laptop's disk. 20G for Windows, 40G for Linux... so much out of space on Windows I've had to turn hibernation off*, so much free space on Linux I can't even touch the sides.
*What is the deal with the size of hiberfil.sys? It makes a file the size of my RAM, so two gigs, which doesn't help, but I swear it doesn't use all of it since it used to hibernate way faster than that would imply. Does NTFS have sparse-file support where bits of files you don't actually use don't take up space? It would be nice. I suppose it might be the end of the world if you ran out of battery and it couldn't hibernate but STILL.
OTOH it took me an entire day to figure out how to get Linux to even sleep and I have to kill my X server and it breaks hotplugging, and I can't hibernate to disk because I don't have any swap partitions. Oops.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: |
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lewis wrote: |
OTOH it took me an entire day to figure out how to get Linux to even sleep and I have to kill my X server and it breaks hotplugging, and I can't hibernate to disk because I don't have any swap paritions. Oops. |
What. The. Fuck. Is Linux still that hard to use properly?
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Evidently.
I am using slackware-current, but equally I do somewhat know what I'm doing.
nVIDIA's drivers allegedly support sleeping but I couldn't get it to work. In fact I panicked the kernel several times trying.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: |
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OscarWilde wrote: |
lewis wrote: |
OTOH it took me an entire day to figure out how to get Linux to even sleep and I have to kill my X server and it breaks hotplugging, and I can't hibernate to disk because I don't have any swap paritions. Oops. |
What. The. Fuck. Is Linux still that hard to use properly?
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OW, IME sleep and standby is the single most frustrating thing to configure on linux. Harder than configuring the kernel (whihc admittedly is pretty easy nowadays), and more finicky than hotplugging USB with proper user permissions or configuring a wireless G card with the WPA supplicant.
In short, it fucking sucks, I have a rough idea of why its in such a sorry state, but still believe there is no excuse for it. I have gotten it to work on a few laptops, but its not easy, and takes lots of tweaking to get the way you want.
In my household, its linux on the server, or dual booting for a network cracking dog of war, and that's it. Its just too frustrating for proper mobile devices.
And because Linux takes so long to boot (it doesn't cheat like Windows does and let you in while stuff is still starting), sleep/standby is mandatory IMO.
lewis, I have a Pentium II laptop with a 100GB HDD. I partitioned 80GB for Windows. 
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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My Linux setup boots to a console login in 14 seconds.
GNOME takes a fucking age to haul its bloated ass off disk, but you don't have to start that, depending on what you're doing, so I can be checking mail in 20 seconds.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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So. DOS boots in seconds... 
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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So. DOS boots in seconds...  |
Man, the Tandy 102 I'm about to buy* is done booting before the LCD hits full brightness. Fast as the blazes! 
*As soon as it's surplused, I'm grabbin that sucker up for the cheap. They're neat. 
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Well pencil, paper, and books don't even have power buttons!
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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lewis wrote: |
Well pencil, paper, and books don't even have power buttons! |
Yeah but you have to turn the pages. And click to advance the lead from the pencil. Don't even get me started on wood pencils.
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Linux: for the discerning supervillain |
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Mord wrote: |
As is typical with most stuff like this that I post, I'm probably 10-15 behind the curve and everyone else has seen it already. If so, enjoy it again... |
Hello, it's been in my sig for over six months. 
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Supervillains for Linux!
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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supersmamillian?
super arch-smvillian?
smamvillian?
AYB can't seem to integrate that term into the smam, help!

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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Linux: for the discerning supervillain |
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... once again making it a viable laptop (although nearly 3 years old). |
Ha! All mine are at least 6 years old! 
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: |
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My laptop is five years old, and it's a Mac, which adds an extra 2-3 years to its agedness right there. 
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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My laptop is five years old, and it's a Mac, which adds an extra 2-3 years to its agedness right there.  |
Man, that means that my Mac Portable was made in the 1800's! No wonder it won't boot right anymore.
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the Mac Portable was steam-powered, no?
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