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Riso
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 8:09 am Post subject: Why was OSY down today. |
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EXPLAIN.
I was fuckn bored at work and nearly lost.
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 8:35 am Post subject: |
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How long was it down? I only noticed it once and thought it was my connection.
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 8:42 am Post subject: |
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I must have been asleep.
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:13 am Post subject: |
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It's because fucking Omnihttpd 2.09 expired today without doing anything like actually TELLING me. When I woke up this morning I had 30 minutes to figure out the problem and fix it before I had to go to work. I downloaded 2.10 and it worked fine, but this is going to be a recurring issue unless I switch to Apache (ugh)
I love Omnihttpd (especially the idea of "security through obscurity") but the constant expiring is a pain. Of course if I paid money for it it wouldn't ever expire... hmmm...
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Jeremy Reimer wrote: |
I love Omnihttpd (especially the idea of "security through obscurity") but the constant expiring is a pain. Of course if I paid money for it it wouldn't ever expire... hmmm... |
IF you cracked it you wouldnt have to worry about that either.
But I recommend you to switch to Apache 2
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:21 am Post subject: |
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I have a serious aversion to buying software. I think its because I'm really really cheap. Anyway, over the last few months, I have also developed an aversion to warez. Damn my white-hatted conscience.
So anyway, I use Apache (1.26 because that's the latest package for Gentoo [that I know of] and I'm too lazy to manually install 2). I use free software wherever I can. I still haven't managed to get rid of Outlook 2000 and Winzip. I love Winzip. I am 'meh' for Outlook, its just a little too much work right now to migrate. Maybe when the snow falls. I should at least use Outlook Express, since it is packaged with Windows 2000. I really like Windows 2000. Enough to pay for it? Not yet......
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:22 am Post subject: |
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I like the cracking idea.
I don't really like the idea of having to set up Apache and edit a friggin' huge httpd.conf file when Omnihttpd does it in one click. Setting up perl and PHP sounds like a pain in the frickin' ass on Apache. Plus, you're at the mercy of evil Penguins (although I notice that Apache isn't released under the GPL.. interesting..)
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Or I could send you .Net server and you could run IIS 6.0.
IIS 6.0 uses BSD style security... plus it's fast. |
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 10:18 am Post subject: |
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That would be cool, only OSY runs off my regular XP box that I use for things like Morrowind, etc, and if my experience with 2k Server is anything to go on, I don't want to be installing an MS server OS on it if I want my desktop to remain a priority.
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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OSY went down on JR?
I hope he came to a satisfying climax.

My, that was lame... 
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Jeremy Reimer wrote: |
I don't really like the idea of having to set up Apache and edit a friggin' huge httpd.conf file when Omnihttpd does it in one click. Setting up perl and PHP sounds like a pain in the frickin' ass on Apache. |
It's not that hard, really. and the default httpd.conf is like 90% comments explaining what everything does. plus the documentation on apache.org is pretty good.
Setting up php consists of copying files to the right places (same as with omnihttpd), and adding the following lines to your httpd.conf:
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LoadModule php4_module c:/web/php/sapi/php4apache2.dll
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
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Plus, you're at the mercy of evil Penguins (although I notice that Apache isn't released under the GPL.. interesting..) |
Apache license ~ BSD license. Do what you like, as long as you stick a copyright notice in the code and the docs/about box/etc.
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Jeremy Reimer wrote: |
I don't really like the idea of having to set up Apache and edit a friggin' huge httpd.conf file when Omnihttpd does it in one click. Setting up perl and PHP sounds like a pain in the frickin' ass on Apache. |
You just stick the perl interpreter in c:\program files\apache\perl, then reference it with the shebang line in each script. That's hard?
and, like Ahra said, the conf is 90% comments. If you really want, strip-out the comments...it would be like 50 lines in total. The comments are good because you can just search for what you want to do (ie: search for "perl") and it will take you directly to the right sections.
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Plus, you're at the mercy of evil Penguins (although I notice that Apache isn't released under the GPL.. interesting..) |
Oh no! the killer penguins! quack quack! i mean...uh...meep meep.
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 5:27 am Post subject: |
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What noise do Penguins make?
I always though it was
"Bill Gates is the anti-Christ"
But when I saw the Penguins at the Boston Aquarium, they kinda just sat on the ice doing nothing. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Evil Merlin wrote: |
What noise do Penguins make?
I always though it was
"Bill Gates is the anti-Christ"
But when I saw the Penguins at the Boston Aquarium, they kinda just sat on the ice doing nothing. |
I heard it was because RMS had given a lecture to them, and they were still trying to recover.
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Harbinger wrote: |
Evil Merlin wrote: |
But when I saw the Penguins at the Boston Aquarium, they kinda just sat on the ice doing nothing. |
I heard it was because RMS had given a lecture to them, and they were still trying to recover.
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Worse: he sang to them.
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Harbinger wrote: |
OSY went down on JR?
I hope he came to a satisfying climax.

My, that was lame...  |

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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Worse: he sang to them.
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Oh. My. God.
I almost grabbed my mechanical pencil and rammed it into the side of my head......then I realized I could simply remove my head phones.
Bad mp3....bad!
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Mord wrote: |
Bad mp3....bad! |
There are French lyrics too, but I don't know if there's an mp3 or not.
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Make the bad man go away!
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