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AnimeFreak · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:14 pm Post subject: OS X x86?

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,496270,00.asp

It probably only exists so the code for the OS stays independant of the architecture.
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Magus · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:25 pm Post subject:

If they really do port OSX to x86 (which I doubt), I'd be willing to throw it on my junk box to play with.
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HitScan · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:27 pm Post subject:

Damn j00! I was about to post that once I got back from giving a lab assistant a break! Wink

I think it's interesting. Fully Hilarious actually, should they be forced to use it. (triply-ultrium-supar hilarious if they just try to sell it on it's own merits...)

But you have a point, it could be for hardware independence.
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Jeremy Reimer · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 4:42 pm Post subject:

The article made a mistake when it said that application writers would have to write their apps on OSX-x86 from scratch in Cocoa. There's no reason why Carbon won't be ported too, if the entire OS is anyway. Apps will, however, require a recompile on OSX-x86 in order to work.

But I still think The Steve wants to squeeze Motorola a bit first before making the jump, and when they do, they'll do something to make sure generic x86 boxen can't join the party. Sure, someone will crack it, but it will be profoundly unsupported on non-Apple x86 hardware.
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Imitation Gruel · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:25 pm Post subject:

Holy fuck.

GIVE. IT. A. REST.
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Madan · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 7:20 am Post subject:

I still think we should keep an eye on Motorola.

I have a friend who knows a marketing grunt there. The grunt works late, tho', and works side by side with the VP o' Marketing.

VP told him some big shit is going down.

???

If that big shit is the RSN of releasing the 90nm process a full two quarters+ before Intel, Motorola would definitely have *something* to give to Apple.

No?

RSN?

Maybe.
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Jeremy Reimer · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 9:36 am Post subject:

Marketing people never know anything. VPs of marketing even less so.
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Magus · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 11:59 am Post subject:

Marketing people make their living by lying.
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Harbinger · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 11:32 am Post subject:

Madan · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:52 pm Post subject:

Jeremy Reimer · Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 1:01 pm Post subject:

Read the "Cluetrain manifesto". Marketing is lying. Communities of real people know the truth about products, which marketing people can no longer hide from them thanks to the Internet.
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Mord · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 8:02 am Post subject:

Yo....I read the cluetrain manifesto as well. It is a must read.

Now, back OT, I would love to give OSX a shot on my PC. I certainly aint gonna fork over for a fucking Mac just to run it. I still use a PII 400 for shit's sake. I can barely afford another PC let alone a Mac. If I came into some money, I might buy one, maybe a nice iBook or a Tibook since they seem more like appliances than laptops IMO.....
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longmarch · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 8:39 am Post subject:

Mord · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 8:47 am Post subject:

Are those prices for used equipment?
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longmarch · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 8:54 am Post subject:

Mord · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 9:09 am Post subject:

that's not too bad then. i have nothing against old equipment. in fact, i would rather acquire second hand/surplus than buy new. not because i'm cheap (although i am), but because it is tinkerage++.
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longmarch · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 10:00 am Post subject:

Mord · Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:26 am Post subject:

From the review of OS X 10.2, referring specifically to Quartz Extreme's windowing technology: